The only real successful programs to get them out of circulation combine some sort of government incentive to replace them, along with regulations and fines to keep people from burning the older stoves, or requirements that they be removed when a house is sold. New stoves, while nice and maybe a major improvement over the stoves they replace, are not cheap. Used epa stoves, in my area are a rarity. In my case, I had a good old stove that did a great job heating my house.
I wondered whether I'd get a replacement that did as good a job heating the house as the current stove. So even if a set of retrofit burn tubes only is half as effective in increasing efficiency and cleaning up emissions than replacing the stove with a new one and this is probably an underestimate , it's still a noticeable improvement over the way the stove burned before the retrofit.
Add a cat to the picture, like I did, and I'd challenge anyone to drive by my house and suspect that I'm not burning a new epa stove. So if the old stoves are going to be out there anyway and all it takes is a quick drive around my neighborhood to prove that , why not attempt to clean them up as much as possible and burn them as efficiently as possible. I've been burning wood for over 40 years and have used everything from an old Ashley, to an Upland to a Sweet Home to heat my house.
I now have a Lopi Liberty and love it. It's an EPA stove, puts out plenty of heat, is very controllable and does everything my Pre EPA stoves did except pollute the air and it gives me more heat from the wood I burn by burning more of the gases before they go up the chimney. I realize not everyone can afford a new stove, but we'd all be better off by retiring the old polluters and burning cleaner models.
It's just not realistic to think we can retrofit stoves with systems that work as well as what the manufactures have spent tens of thousands of dollars in research, development and testing in lab conditions to create. I don't think my retrofit works as well as new stove; not at all. It can't compare to my Blaze King in any way except maybe weight.
It does, however, work better than it used to. There are a few here on hearth. Pretty much every one I have seen well documented has been very successful. Here are just a few examples of a complete DIY stove being built with secondary burn and a glass door with airwash. Secondary burn tube construction Secondary burn tube construction part2 And the finished, completely DIY stove Just for some ideas.
Sorry, contacting that person to see if I can repost his pictures directly. Dec 22, 4, NE PA. Similar threads. My Brass Flame Wood Stove. The flames hover and almost dance on their way up and out the flue, providing the owner with not only a small show, but the heat and warmth they expect. The technology is both simple but technically advanced. Small air channels built into the appliance feed room pre-heated air into the firebox at calculated amounts, at different locations, which automatically ignite around 1, degrees Fahrenheit.
I've been only dreaming toward a 'two phase' type set-up that can be used conventionally, but convertible to a blower set-up when electricity is available But I never got around to actually building a working model modification. The stove is freestanding, centrally located in my completely open pole barn style house.
Yes, im willing to experiment and was just kinda fishin to see if anyone else may have tried such a thing. I have seen several other models of similar steel woodstoves that have these tubes incorporated into their design-and they appear to just draw air in without fan or motor, and pipe it out thru small holes above the fire as I described.
I understand and agree hoe blowing air into a hot coal bed works, but im trying to ignite the unburned gases and smoke that has risen off the fire, before it travels along top of baffle and out the flue. Thanks, and I am gonna read thru the thread you mentioned again. Fireside Tools. Spare Parts For Stoves. Direct Air Feed Kits. Fire Grates. Cement And Silicone. Stove Accessories. Classic Handle Range.
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